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Degrees and Certs are what makes companies able to justify what they charge to their clients for support, which in turn pay your salary.
I think you are looking at it from the wrong angle.
On 2/7/07, jv wrote: > I understand that and agree that it may not be a good example, but my point > is that it’s skill not degrees or certs that get’s the job done. However, > in my many years of experience in IT, I would say that at least 80-85% of > the great network engineers/administrators were or weren’t certified and an > even smaller % had degrees. > > We’re beating a dead horse here. Bottom line is no one should be discounted > because they don’t possess either one. > > > > —–Original Message—– > From: Thomas Jones [mailto:1336.50@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:27 PM > To: Jesus Velazquez > Cc: cisco@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: Am I in the right place? CCIE need 140K [7:117435] > > You need a licensed electrician due to legal guidelines and housing > codes, not skill level. > > This comparison is irrelevant. > > On 2/7/07, Jesus Velazquez wrote: > > When you need a good electrician, you ask for a licensed electrician, not > an > > electrician with a bachelors degree. How is that any different than a > > Network Engineer. Would it be nice if he had some broader studies rather > > than a specialized study in the field that he is working in? I don’t > > believe that a degree is set’s you above or below a CCIE. I’m sure we’ve > > come to agreement that an education is just that whether degree or cert > and > > it doesn’t have as much weight without the experience to back it up. > Bottom > > line is, if you’re technical enough to do the hiring then it should not be > > an issue trying to weed out the ones that are not as proficient or > > experienced for the position you are seeking. > > > > On 2/6/07, nrf wrote: > > > > > > “”Jun Kim”" wrote in message > > > news:200702061312.l16DC37X011376@groupstudy.com… > > > > Having both a MS degree and CCIE Security, I can only say this: > > > > > > > > 1) If the position requires a ccie, then go get certified > > > > 2) If the position requires a degree, then go get yourself a degree, > > > > 3) If the position requires both a degree and ccie, then go get both, > > > > > > > > That’s the rules and if someone don’t like it, go open your own > > > consultant > > > > firm and become your own boss. Until then, we are bound by those > rules > > > > and > > > > they may seem to be unfair to some, but rules are rules. If you don’t > > > > like > > > > it, > > > > too bad, apply for other jobs. > > > > > > Well, at least in the case of this thread, people here successfully > pushed > > > back on the degree requirement. Hence, it seems to me that if enough > > > people > > > don’t like the rules, they don’t have to abide by then. Instead, they > can > > > get the rules changed. > > > > > > The part that I find interesting, again, is that nobody pushed back on > the > > > certification requirement. It was only the degree requirement that was > > > subject to scrutiny. I wonder why that is? > — > Thomas > 1336.50@gmail.com > http://www.notquiteleet.com > > “What is it that binds us to this place as to no other? It is not the > Well or the Bell or the stone walls or the crisp October nights… No, > our love for this place is based upon the fact that it is, as it was > meant to be, the University of the People.” > > -Charles Kuralt > >
— Thomas 1336.50@gmail.com http://www.notquiteleet.com
“What is it that binds us to this place as to no other? It is not the Well or the Bell or the stone walls or the crisp October nights… No, our love for this place is based upon the fact that it is, as it was meant to be, the University of the People.”
-Charles Kuralt

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