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Damn, I finished the lab in 4 hours and had 4 hours to verify and I still didn’t………..


Hah, it’s going to take me a month everyday after work to complete that. Owning a house has it’s pros and cons, that’s for sure.
Dale
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Hoogen wrote:
> I am still single.. do any of the vendors offer a bootcamp to teach all > that.. that sounds tougher to do list than doing a CCIE. > > Bet you took more than 4 hrs to do that.. and even after 4 hrs you must > have failed.. :) > > Congrats on your number though :) > > -Hoogen > #14731 > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Dale Kling wrote: > >> You’re not lying, >> >> Here’s the start of the Honey-do-list I received by my wife: >> >> - Fix hole in wall >> - Fix crooked door >> - fix alum. wrapping on flashing around garage that blew off during storm >> - Replace warped deck boards, sand deck and restain (800 sq foot >> deck,it’s >> going to suck badly) >> - pressure wash house, fence, driveway, seal fence and driveway >> - put new seal around exterior facing doors >> - mulch about 3000 sq feet of flower gardens that have overgrown with >> weeds >> as well now too >> - install new zone in sprinkler system >> - buy new 1080p tv and find time to enjoy it. >> - study for SP >> >> ugh, >> >> I think I was better off studying…… >> >> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:28 PM, keith tokash >> wrote: >> >> > Awesome. Sometimes while studying it sounded easy when people got their >> > number in a few months (which makes you wonder why it’s not easy for >> > you…). >> > You did a good job conveying that you did in fact bleed for the digits. >> > Now >> > comes the fun part, where you start getting bashed in the head by all of >> > the >> > things you put off to study. :) >> > >> > >> > The information in this e-mail is intended for the >> > attention and use of the everyone in the world, or I wouldn’t have sent >> it >> > in >> > an unencrypted email. This message or any part thereof can and should be >> > disclosed, copied, distributed and retained by any person without >> > authorization from the addressee. Furthermore, I reserve the right to >> > disclose, copy, distribute and retain anything anyone sends *me* via >> email, >> > up >> > to and including putting the exact text in a MySpace bulletin. >> > >> > >> > > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:52:53 -0400 >> > > From: dalek77@gmail.com >> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com >> > > Subject: Damn, I finished the lab in 4 hours and had 4 hours to verify >> > and >> > I still didn’t……….. >> > > >> > > get served that coffee Brian Dennis was talking about. At least I got >> my >> > > number on my first attempt though, 21330 baby! >> > > BTW, never ever ever take your lab on Friday, the wait was worse then >> the >> > > night before christmas as a kid! I didn’t get my results until I woke >> up >> > > this morning and have been on edge with people all weekend. >> > > >> > > Some people already know me from class and know my story. I began >> > studying >> > > because of all the paper CCNPs out there, especially my work. Now I >> have >> > > nothing against CCNPs or any paper certs if you did it the right way, >> but >> > > what pissed me off is that our employer thought this other guy was as >> > > qualified as me because he got his CCNP and this guy announced himself >> as >> > a >> > > Senior Engineer. Well this schmuck took two days to get an SVI on a >> Cat >> > 3750 >> > > up and just started networking about a year ago. While I worked hard >> for >> > > mine and have recertified it twice over the past 7 years now, he got >> his >> > in >> > > weeks with you know what…… Pretty blatant about it as well as >> they >> > > passed them around work talking about how they can get CCNP in just a >> few >> > > weeks. These guys blow and I wish Cisco would do something about >> their >> > > testing system. >> > > >> > > In any case, I got mad, I mean really mad that nobody could see >> through >> > the >> > > charade of these fake qualified network engineers. February of this >> year >> > I >> > > had enough and I knew there was only one thing to do. Get something >> that >> > > they couldn’t get or at least they would have to work real hard to get >> > and >> > > based on their work ethic, I doubt they would ever get it, the CCIE. >> I >> > > worked my @$$ off since I got the materials end of February, and by >> the >> > > grace of GOD and my lovely wife I was able to get my number in RTP on >> > June >> > > 27th. I pretty much shut my family off for the last 4 months, while >> my >> > wife >> > > took care of everything, the kids, the house, the dogs…… To give >> > > everyone an idea of the hours I put in…. I worked 40 hours a week, >> I >> > > studied everyday after work, from 6 pm to 2 am labbing and 12-15 >> hours >> > each >> > > day on the weekends. I took one day off and that was Mothers day and >> > then >> > I >> > > attended InternetworkExperts 12 day bootcamp. I actually finished >> their >> > > bootcamp material by the 3rd day of the bootcamp and Brian Dennis and >> > > company was nice enough to let me mock lab the rest of the days I was >> > > there. The InternetworkExpert bootcamp was nice to get away for 12 >> days >> > > and lab for about 12-15 hours a day. I went outside once the entire >> > time >> > I >> > > was there and that was for a 5 min walk to look at the pool and I >> didn’t >> > > turn on my tv once. I probably squeezed in about 3 weeks of lab time >> in >> > 2 >> > > weeks of time. In essence, I was driven to get the CCIE from start to >> > > finish in about 4 months. Granted I have about 8 years Cisco >> experience, >> > > but it hasn’t been hands on everyday the past 3-4 years because I work >> in >> > a >> > > lab environment now and no longer do operational support, thank god >> for >> > that >> > > too. >> > > >> > > It was a hard road, and there was many times I kept telling myself >> this >> > is >> > > too hard and will I never get there. However, I kept telling myself >> as >> > long >> > > as I keep studying and as long as I keep labbing I will always learn >> > > something and will get closer. You might think I’m crazy, but I had a >> > goal >> > > and my wife said go for it. As I’ve said in previous posts, my >> > motivattion >> > > was not money, but to gain the knowledge these other guys didn’t have >> and >> > to >> > > achieve CCIE status, something most of these paper certifiers won’t >> ever >> > > get. I have to say that I must thank these guys at work for the >> > > motivation, and I will today when I go in to work in 2 hours after I >> get >> > my >> > > Cisco polos embroidered with the CCIE logo and install an LED behind >> it. >> > :P >> > > Seriously though, they gave me that spark that I was missing for years >> > and >> > > passing this lab attempt has ignited it even more. Now if you’ve >> managed >> > to >> > > endure the past few paragraphs of blah, all you first time CCIE >> > candidates >> > > enjoy my recommendations, which you’ve all heard time and time again >> I’m >> > > sure. >> > > >> > > Study the Core, lab the Core until your fingers bleed. Get your Core >> > down >> > > to at least 3 hours or less. InternetwokExpert WB3 labs are awesome >> for >> > > this, I got those down to 2 hours or less, some of the hard ones took >> 2 >> > 1/2 >> > > hours. Speed and time management was huge for me. I probably put in >> > about >> > > 500 hours of harcore lab time the last 4 months. I initially started >> > > InternetworkExperts WB2 doing labs in like 10 hours, learning and >> > > understanding the theory behind things. They were tough at first, but >> I >> > > constantly would go back and reread the DOCCD and reference all my >> books, >> > I >> > > have ton of books. I watched their technologies COD 2 1/2 times in >> it’s >> > > entirety. It took a lot of coffee and doing it hands on with them to >> > stay >> > > awake. Brian Dennis’s jokes couldn’t even keep me up anymore after >> the >> > > first go around. ;) After a few months I started completing their >> labs >> > in >> > > entirety in about 4 hours. Once this happened, I would do them and >> then >> > > look up everything in the DOCCD, no matter if I knew it or not. This >> was >> > my >> > > DOCCD familiarization stage. I actually picked that up from Scott >> Morris >> > > from somewhere I believe. Here it comes, you’ve heard it before, and >> > you’re >> > > going to hear it again…. >> > > >> > > KNOW YOUR DOCCD.. I guarantee you will get something in the lab that >> you >> > > haven’t seen before. This is where speed on the CORE was essential >> for >> > me. >> > > By lunch I had completed the lab once over , ran my TCL script, and >> was >> > > feeling a little uneasy still, but I had the meat done. I’m a >> paranoid >> > guy, >> > > you can ask others. The only thing left was verification and digging >> in >> > the >> > > DOCCD for those few things I didn’t know. I verified twice and each >> time >> > I >> > > found one small mistake that would have cost me 2 or 3 points each. >> Oh >> > and >> > > by the way, I still don’t know the answer to one of them weird >> questions, >> > > even now that I’m home and I have google, so here it comes, here it >> comes >> > > again, KNOW YOUR DOCCD. My last suggestion is make sure you know >> theory >> > > very well in the CORE IGP, well everything you learn really, but >> > especially >> > > your CORE. you’ve heard time and time again Switching, FR, and IGP >> > probably >> > > will be half your points. If you understand the mechanics and how >> things >> > > work, no matter what scenario you get you can work through it. If you >> > > memorize the vendor WBs, it won’t help in the real lab. >> > > >> > > So I guess I should recognize people and materials that have helped >> me. >> > > First off, my wife and GOD. If I don’t mention her first, she might >> kill >> > me >> > > and probably the same about GOD… O_o Next, InternetworkExperts ver >> 4 >> > WBs >> > > and their Technology COD. I have the Brians’ voices engrained into my >> > > head. Brian Dennis, Josh Finke and crew from InternetworkExpert were >> > nice >> > > enough to hook me up in the last hours. Also, IPExperts audio CD with >> > Scott >> > > Morris. I bought their WB package, but I only used the audio portion. >> I >> > > thought it was very good and I probably listened to it about 5 times >> in >> > it’s >> > > entirety driving to and from work everyday. It was just an extra tool >> to >> > > feed my brain the knowledge it needed. >> > > >> > > I already have the materials from InternetworkExpert for the SP track >> > and >> > > will hit that at work starting this morning since this is what I do at >> > work >> > > everyday and my boss will let me study while I lab it up on our 7604s. >> :) >> > > MMM Knowledge, I think these guys at work turned me into an animal. >> > Watch >> > > your back Petr, I’m coming for your CCIEs and I’ll probably pass up >> Brian >> > > Mcgahan in 6 months because he’s a slacker. j/k man. ;) >> > > >> > > Good luck to all other CCIE candidates and I hope this email helps. >> > > >> > > regards, >> > > >> > > Dale >> > > >> > > P.S. Don’t unicast me for any NDA crap either, I’ll turn your ass >> into >> > > Cisco. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> > > Subscription information may be found at: >> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Need to know now? 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