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		<title>MPLS EXP remarking</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Antonio,
Actually I was using your mini-scenario MPLS VPN QoS (Uniform Mode) and rewriting the precedence to EXP.  The debug mpls packet will display it as CoS
  CE1 - PE1 - P1 - P2 - P3- PE2- CE2
ping from CE1 (precedence set to 5), P1 marks it down to 3
In my output below [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Antonio,<br />
Actually I was using your mini-scenario MPLS VPN QoS (Uniform Mode) and rewriting the precedence to EXP.  The debug mpls packet will display it as CoS<br />
  CE1 - PE1 - P1 - P2 - P3- PE2- CE2<br />
ping from CE1 (precedence set to 5), P1 marks it down to 3<br />
In my output below you will see some return traffic mixed in.<br />
Here when I DO NOT activate  &#8220;debug mpls packet&#8221; on P1. - It works all as expected.<br />
debug mpls packet on P2 *Mar  1 00:12:53.039: MPLS: Se1/0: recvd: CoS=3, TTL=253, Label(s)=18/24 *Mar  1 00:12:53.039: MPLS: Se1/1: xmit: CoS=3, TTL=252, Label(s)=18/24 *Mar  1 00:12:53.343: MPLS: Se1/1: recvd: CoS=3, TTL=253, Label(s)=19/23 *Mar  1 00:12:53.343: MPLS: Se1/0: xmit: CoS=3, TTL=252, Label(s)=19/23 *Mar  1 00:12:53.947: MPLS: Se1/0: recvd: CoS=3, TTL=253, Label(s)=18/24 *Mar  1 00:12:53.947: MPLS: Se1/1: xmit: CoS=3, TTL=252, Label(s)=18/24<br />
 I also do a tcpdump on the P1 to P2 interface.<br />
17:38:36.729265 MPLS (label 18, exp 3, ttl 253) (label 24, exp 5, [S], ttl 254), IP, length: 111 17:38:37.634277 MPLS (label 18, exp 3, ttl 253) (label 24, exp 5, [S], ttl 254), IP, length: 111<br />
 NOW Here when I  activate  &#8220;debug mpls packet&#8221; on P1.<br />
 debug mpls packet on P2<br />
*Mar  1 00:18:26.699: MPLS: Se1/0: recvd: CoS=5, TTL=253, Label(s)=18/24 *Mar  1 00:18:26.699: MPLS: Se1/1: xmit: CoS=5, TTL=252, Label(s)=18/24 *Mar  1 00:18:27.003: MPLS: Se1/1: recvd: CoS=5, TTL=253, Label(s)=19/23 *Mar  1 00:18:27.003: MPLS: Se1/0: xmit: CoS=5, TTL=252, Label(s)=19/23 *Mar  1 00:18:27.303: MPLS: Se1/0: recvd: CoS=5, TTL=253, Label(s)=18/24 *Mar  1 00:18:27.303: MPLS: Se1/1: xmit: CoS=5, TTL=252, Label(s)=18/24<br />
 I also do a tcpdump on the P1 to P2 interface.  (No marking down was done)<br />
17:44:10.395041 MPLS (label 18, exp 5, ttl 253) (label 24, exp 5, [S], ttl 254), IP, length: 111 17:44:12.204094 MPLS (label 18, exp 5, ttl 253) (label 24, exp 5, [S], ttl 254), IP, length: 111</p>
<p> Rgds, Rich<br />
 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Antonio Soares  wrote: &gt; &gt; Well, i&#8217;ve seen this problem before. I made a little search with Bug Tookit and found this: &gt; &gt; ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ &gt; CSCse78533 Bug Details &gt; &gt; Debug mpls packet shows incorrect label stack &gt; &gt; Symptom: &gt; Debug mpls packets shows bogus label stack. &gt; &gt; Conditions: &gt; When debug mpls packets is turned on. &gt; &gt; Workaround: &gt; Do not run debug mpls packets. &gt; &gt; Related Bug Information &gt; &gt; Printing incorrect label information in mpls debug &gt; &gt; Symptom: When MPLS Traffic is sent over a TE Tunnel, the debug output produced using the command debug mpls packet produces &gt; incorrect information about the label stack. &gt; &gt; Workaround: There is no workaround. &gt; &gt; ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ &gt; &gt; I saw this problem in scenarios without MPLS TE. &gt; &gt; &gt; Regards, &gt; &gt; Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&amp;S) &gt; amsoares@netcabo.pt &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Pavel Bykov &gt; Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de Novembro de 2008 20:04 &gt; To: Rich Collins &gt; Cc: Con Spathas; ccielab@groupstudy.com &gt; Subject: Re: MPLS EXP remarking &gt; &gt; Since CEF is the mechanism that is working with tags, I expect FIB/LFIB to do the tag bidding. &gt; When you debug, then it has to be process switched, so that might be responsible. &gt; &gt; What I was thinking of though, is the exact output of debug command. Is it really EXP or CoS? Because since you are using VLANs, it &gt; could just refer to cos markings. &gt; Are you setting CoS as well? Can you try setting CoS? &gt; &gt; On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Rich Collins  wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; Hello, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I just tried a very similar scenario to yours (Uniform mode) with dynamips. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If I turned on &#8220;debug mpls packet&#8221;on P1 (where the match and rewrite &gt; &gt; of the EXP occurs) then the policy maps/service policies wouldn&#8217;t &gt; &gt; work.  It confused me because I had seen some increment in the &gt; &gt; counters but that was from the time before I had activated the debug. &gt; &gt; So it worked properly after turning off this debug and observing &gt; &gt; further along in the P core such as on your R4 (enabling debug mpls &gt; &gt; packet here). &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Is there some caveat when using &#8220;debug mpls packet&#8221;? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -Rich &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Con Spathas &gt; &gt;  &gt; &gt;wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Gday, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I think I&#8217;m missing something quite fundamental here but I can&#8217;t &gt; &gt; &gt; seem to find the reason why&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I have the following setup: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; R1 (CE) - R2 (PE) - R3 (P) - R4 (P) - R5 (PE) - R6 (CE) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; R2 is matching ICMP inbound from R1 and marking it MPLS EXP 4 &gt; &gt; &gt; R3 is matching MPLS EXP 4 from R2 and remarking it to MPLS EXP1 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I see that is happening when I debug on R4 (the COS=4 on the XMIT is &gt; &gt; &gt; the VPN &gt; &gt; &gt; label) which is what I expect as R5 is currently sending implicit &gt; &gt; &gt; null to R4. &gt; &gt; &gt; If I configure R5 to advertise explicit null in LDP, the debug &gt; &gt; &gt; output changes correctly and the xmit CoS = 1. Anyhow that&#8217;s not my &gt; &gt; &gt; issue - just background info. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; R4 &gt; &gt; &gt; *Mar  1 02:40:51.859: MPLS: Et0/0.34: recvd: CoS=1, TTL=253, &gt; &gt; Label(s)=19/21 &gt; &gt; &gt; *Mar  1 02:40:51.863: MPLS: Et0/0.45: xmit: CoS=4, TTL=252, &gt; &gt; &gt; Label(s)=21 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The bit that is eluding my understanding is the output on R3. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; R3 &gt; &gt; &gt; *Mar  1 00:10:59.075: MPLS: Et0/0.23: recvd: CoS=4, TTL=254, &gt; &gt; Label(s)=17/21 &gt; &gt; &gt; *Mar  1 00:10:59.079: MPLS: Et0/0.34: xmit: CoS=4, TTL=253, &gt; &gt; Label(s)=19/21 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I can&#8217;t work out why the xmit is showing the CoS=4 - even though R4 &gt; &gt; &gt; does receive it as CoS=1 ? I expected on R3 to see CoS=1 on the XMIT. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This is the policy map in have inbound on R3&#8217;s connection to R2. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; class-map match-all EXP4 &gt; &gt; &gt;  match mpls experimental topmost 4 &gt; &gt; &gt; ! &gt; &gt; &gt; policy-map IN &gt; &gt; &gt;  class EXP4 &gt; &gt; &gt;  set mpls experimental topmost 1 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The policy-map output is incrementing counters correctly. So whilst &gt; &gt; &gt; the re-marking is working - I don&#8217;t quite understand why the debug &gt; &gt; &gt; on R3 &gt; &gt; isn&#8217;t &gt; &gt; &gt; consistent with what I subsequently see on R4. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Any insight would be great. 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		<title>Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[THANKS.  You are right. The loop brought down the entire data center because of the loss of OSPF adjacency.  I had to go there personally to break the loop&#8230;
I did found the problem.  I removed the &#8220;channel-group 12 mode on&#8221; command on one switch, but forgot to remove it from the partner [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANKS.  You are right. The loop brought down the entire data center because of the loss of OSPF adjacency.  I had to go there personally to break the loop&#8230;<br />
I did found the problem.  I removed the &#8220;channel-group 12 mode on&#8221; command on one switch, but forgot to remove it from the partner switch&#8230;<br />
Regards, Kim<br />
 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Antonio Soares  wrote:<br />
&gt; A STP Loop can stop everything in your network. I saw an entire data center &gt; going down in less than 1 second! When this is &gt; happening, the best to do is to break every existent L2 redundant link &gt; quickly. In some situations, if you don&#8217;t have physical &gt; access to the equipments, this is just not possible! &gt; &gt; Then when the storm is over, you can try to trace the source of the &gt; problem. But i can tell you it&#8217;s very difficult or even not &gt; possible to find out what failed. &gt; &gt; Cisco has a good document about this: &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk621/technologies_tech_note09186a0080136673.shtml &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Regards, &gt; &gt; Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&amp;S) &gt; amsoares@netcabo.pt &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of &gt; Kim teu &gt; Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de Novembro de 2008 14:55 &gt; To: Cisco certification &gt; Subject: Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links &gt; &gt; Hello all, &gt; &gt; *Has anyone experienced a layer 2 loop event that caused OSPF adjacency to &gt; be dropped for layer 3 links?  Any idea why?* &gt; &gt; &gt; ** &gt; &gt; *What&#8217;s the best way to diagnose the cause of the layer 2 after the outage? &gt; The following is what I see in the log.**  VLAN 56 is looping&#8230;* &gt; &gt; &gt; *The switch is seeing packet sourced from itself::* &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472825: .Nov 19 15:38:56 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt; 192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *The standby state change to active because the switch lost it connection &gt; to the active switch because of SPT loop prevention::* &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472826: .Nov 19 15:39:00 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan72 Group 72 &gt; state Standby -&gt; Active &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472827: .Nov 19 15:39:03 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan116 Group &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;116 &gt; state Standby -&gt; Active &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472828: .Nov 19 15:39:26 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt; 192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472829: .Nov 19 15:39:38 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan152 Group &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;152 &gt; state Active -&gt; Speak &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472830: .Nov 19 15:39:47 CST: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 10, Nbr &gt; 192.168.200.5 on Vlan704 from EXSTART to DOWN, Neighbor Down: Dead timer &gt; expired &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472831: .Nov 19 15:39:54 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan134 Group &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;134 &gt; state Active -&gt; Speak &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472832: .Nov 19 15:39:56 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt; 192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472833: .Nov 19 15:39:59 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan152 Group &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;152 &gt; state Standby -&gt; Active &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;472834: .Nov 19 15:40:14 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan134 Group &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;134 &gt; state Standby -&gt; Active &gt; &gt; &gt; Kim &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html<br />
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		<title>Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also if you are using only Cisco equipmente then configure UDLD or 80.3ah, it helps also to prevent loops.
Rodrigo 
&#62;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &#62;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On  &#62;Behalf Of ext Gutierrez, Rodrigo (NSN - CO/Santa Fe de Bogota) &#62;Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:49 PM &#62;To: Antonio Soares; Kim teu; Cisco certification &#62;Subject: RE: Layer 2 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also if you are using only Cisco equipmente then configure UDLD or 80.3ah, it helps also to prevent loops.<br />
Rodrigo </p>
<p>&gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On  &gt;Behalf Of ext Gutierrez, Rodrigo (NSN - CO/Santa Fe de Bogota) &gt;Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:49 PM &gt;To: Antonio Soares; Kim teu; Cisco certification &gt;Subject: RE: Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links &gt; &gt;Just use broadcast storm control to diminish the loop impact  &gt;processor wise and to define the broadcast threshold allowed  &gt;as per interface, in that way it will give you more time to  &gt;track down the source of the problem or at least time enough  &gt;to disconnect all secondary layer 2 redundancy, loops are  &gt;lethal and can bring down your network in a matter of seconds, &gt; &gt;Rodrigo &gt; &gt; &gt;  &gt; &gt;&gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt;&gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On  &gt;Behalf Of  &gt;&gt;ext Antonio Soares &gt;&gt;Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:43 PM &gt;&gt;To: &#8216;Kim teu&#8217;; &#8216;Cisco certification&#8217; &gt;&gt;Subject: RE: Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;A STP Loop can stop everything in your network. I saw an entire data  &gt;&gt;center going down in less than 1 second! When this is happening, the  &gt;&gt;best to do is to break every existent L2 redundant link quickly. In  &gt;&gt;some situations, if you don&#8217;t have physical access to the equipments,  &gt;&gt;this is just not possible! &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Then when the storm is over, you can try to trace the source of the  &gt;&gt;problem. But i can tell you it&#8217;s very difficult or even not  &gt;possible to  &gt;&gt;find out what failed. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Cisco has a good document about this: &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk621/technologies_tech_n &gt;&gt;ote09186a0080136673.shtml &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Regards, &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&amp;S) &gt;&gt;amsoares@netcabo.pt &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt;&gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On  &gt;Behalf Of  &gt;&gt;Kim teu &gt;&gt;Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de Novembro de 2008 14:55 &gt;&gt;To: Cisco certification &gt;&gt;Subject: Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Hello all, &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;*Has anyone experienced a layer 2 loop event that caused OSPF  &gt;adjacency  &gt;&gt;to be dropped for layer 3 links?  Any idea why?* &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;** &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;*What&#8217;s the best way to diagnose the cause of the layer 2 after the  &gt;&gt;outage? &gt;&gt;The following is what I see in the log.**  VLAN 56 is looping&#8230;* &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;*The switch is seeing packet sourced from itself::* &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472825: .Nov 19 15:38:56 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt;&gt;192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;*The standby state change to active because the switch lost it  &gt;&gt;connection to the active switch because of SPT loop prevention::* &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472826: .Nov 19 15:39:00 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE:  &gt;&gt;Vlan72 Group 72 &gt;&gt;state Standby -&gt; Active &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472827: .Nov 19 15:39:03 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan116 Group &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;116 &gt;&gt;state Standby -&gt; Active &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472828: .Nov 19 15:39:26 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt;&gt;192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472829: .Nov 19 15:39:38 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan152 Group &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;152 &gt;&gt;state Active -&gt; Speak &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472830: .Nov 19 15:39:47 CST: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 10, Nbr &gt;&gt;192.168.200.5 on Vlan704 from EXSTART to DOWN, Neighbor Down:  &gt;&gt;Dead timer expired &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472831: .Nov 19 15:39:54 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan134 Group &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;134 &gt;&gt;state Active -&gt; Speak &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472832: .Nov 19 15:39:56 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt;&gt;192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472833: .Nov 19 15:39:59 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan152 Group &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;152 &gt;&gt;state Standby -&gt; Active &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472834: .Nov 19 15:40:14 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan134 Group &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;134 &gt;&gt;state Standby -&gt; Active &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Kim &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;______________________________________________________________ &gt;_________ &gt;&gt;Subscription information may be found at:  &gt;&gt;http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;______________________________________________________________ &gt;_________ &gt;&gt;Subscription information may be found at:  &gt;&gt;http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt; &gt; &gt;Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt;_______________________________________________________________________ &gt;Subscription information may be found at:  &gt;http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[The couple of guys I know that have it its a get it and BS the rest of the requirements certification.  I hope it is not like this on the whole as my experience is extremely anecdotal, but this is what I have seen.
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Rik Guyler  wrote:<br />
&gt; It&#8217;s been awhile since I looked at this one but I recall there being an &gt; annual education requirement also so it&#8217;s not just a get it and forget it &gt; certification. &gt; &gt; CISSP is good for understanding the *soft* issues of security so for a &gt; consultant, manager, information security officer  it&#8217;s a good thing.  For &gt; an Engineer though, it won&#8217;t cover the hands-on details. &gt; &gt; Rik &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of &gt; Matthew Long &gt; Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:10 AM &gt; To: Cisco certification &gt; Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; I have been considering the CISSP on an off for some time, I look at it &gt; as an option and as a large percentage of my work is security &gt; consultancy it is useful to have the weight of a CISSP to sit along with &gt; a CCIE. It also has the advantage of being a cert which is not tied to a &gt; vendor take a look at &gt; &#8220;http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/111708-cisco-sec.html&#8221; . &gt; &gt; As to the ability to cheat, yes the CISSP is a written (I haven&#8217;t sat it &gt; yet) but from what I have heard there is quite a bit of interpretation &gt; required for the exam questions. It&#8217;s not like pass4suring your CCNA. &gt; &gt; And once you have passed your exam you have to be endorsed: &gt; &#8220;Once a candidate has been notified they have successfully passed the &gt; CISSP examination, he or she will be required to have his or her &gt; application endorsed before the credential can be awarded. &gt; &gt; The endorser attests that the candidate&#8217;s assertions regarding &gt; professional experience are true to the best of their knowledge, and &gt; that the candidate is in good standing within the information security &gt; industry.&#8221; &gt; http://www.isc2.org/endorsement.aspx &gt; &gt; Now I not saying the endorsement isn&#8217;t fool proof, but, how many R&amp;S &gt; jockeys have won their spurs in the real world and how many are sat &gt; tapping away on a dynamips lab? &gt; &gt; You pays you money and takes your choice. &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of &gt; Pavel Bykov &gt; Sent: 18 November 2008 23:01 &gt; To: Darby Weaver &gt; Cc: darth router; Duncan Maccubbin; Cisco certification &gt; Subject: Re: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; One of the reasons CCIE has held up in high ranks over all those years &gt; is &gt; the thorough practical part, which inherently filters out paper-boys, or &gt; certifications where people can cheat using TK, Pass4Sure, etc. &gt; CISSP does not have that, and as far as I know, has only theoretical &gt; part to &gt; it. &gt; Therefore it could have value HR-wise now, but weight of the cert it is &gt; directly offseted by it&#8217;s demand and amount of people cheating their way &gt; to &gt; it. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Darby Weaver &gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; All, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I&#8217;ve seen a lot of demand for the CISSP. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It&#8217;s not that hard from a technical perspective but it is broad and &gt; does &gt; &gt; require a little time to study for it. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It has its place and some people with the CISSP are commanding greater &gt; &gt; salaries than a CCIE. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; But recall the CISSP is not assumed to have any specific knowledge of &gt; &gt; either &gt; &gt; a PIX/ASA nor Cisco. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It&#8217;s a generalist certification very similar to the SANS GSEC. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If you want to work in a Security capacity it&#8217;s kind of assumed to be &gt; &gt; there. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; So not a bad $500.00 or so investment for the exam or maybe &gt; $4500-5000.00 &gt; &gt; for a class. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Cheaper than a CCIE for sure. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:28 PM, darth router &gt;  &gt; &gt;wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Good conversation. I&#8217;ve seen it as a DoD contract requirement &gt; before. I&#8217;d &gt; &gt; &gt; probably look at it as a resume booster, but I do have to admit, &gt; there &gt; &gt; was &gt; &gt; &gt; good material with what I did read over, just boring, and not action &gt; &gt; packed &gt; &gt; &gt; like working on cisco gear! &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Duncan Maccubbin  &gt; &gt; duncan.maccubbin@earthlink.net&gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  How much did your CCIE teach you about Physical data center &gt; security? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Disaster recovery? Law? While it didn&#8217;t go into deep detail I &gt; still &gt; &gt; &gt; learned &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; quit a bit. The CISSP is what it is which is not a vendor specific &gt; &gt; hands &gt; &gt; &gt; on &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; exam. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8220;But to each is own&#8230; I worked at a company where like 5 people &gt; got &gt; &gt; the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a &gt; pix&#8230; so &gt; &gt; &gt; what &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; does that tell you???&#8221; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  It tells me you have no clue what the CISSP exam is about. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: Joseph Brunner  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Nov 17, 2008 10:41 AM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: &#8220;&#8216;Diment, Andrew&#8217;&#8221; , &#8216;darth router&#8217; &gt;  &gt; &gt; &gt; darklordrouter@gmail.com&gt;, &#8216;Cisco certification&#8217;  &gt; ccielab@groupstudy.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Right, I agree &#8220;knowledge is never useless&#8221; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;There is better security knowledge for today&#8217;s re-aligned world &gt; in the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;CCNA-SEC &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I wouldn&#8217;t even say the CISSP is an inch deep&#8230; it&#8217;s about a &gt; &gt; millimeter &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;deep, that&#8217;s why I think its worthless. The CCIE written&#8217;s are an &gt; inch &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; deep. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;But to each is own&#8230; I worked at a company where like 5 people &gt; got &gt; &gt; the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a &gt; pix&#8230; &gt; &gt; so &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; what &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;does that tell you??? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;-Joe &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On &gt; Behalf &gt; &gt; Of &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Diment, Andrew &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:26 AM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: Joseph Brunner; darth router; Cisco certification &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I don&#8217;t agree with your assessment that the CISSP is useless. &gt; Does it &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;teach you to configure a firewall&#8230;no, but neither does a &gt; college &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;degree.  Would you consider that useless too?  Knowledge is never &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;useless. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;You just need to take it for what it is, a 50,000 foot view of &gt; all &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;aspects of security.  A mile wide and an inch deep.  By itself it &gt; &gt; might &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;not mean much, but it does show you went through the material and &gt; &gt; passed &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;the test.  Anything, and I mean anything, that will move your &gt; resume &gt; &gt; to &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;the &#8220;interview&#8221; pile is very useful. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I very recently applied for a security job within my own company. &gt; I &gt; &gt; got &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;a call from HR and the guys exact words were &#8220;you have a CCIE and &gt; a &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;CISSP, I&#8217;m going to immediately forward your resume to the hiring &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;manager&#8221;.  I had an interview 24 hours later. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Andy &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On &gt; Behalf &gt; &gt; Of &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Joseph Brunner &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:39 AM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: &#8216;darth router&#8217;; &#8216;Cisco certification&#8217; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;OT is right.. search the archives&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;My thoughts - useless, now more than ever&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Its bad in IT right now unless you can configure a firewall, not &gt; tell &gt; &gt; us &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;we should have one. Unless you can configure a lockdown of a &gt; voice &gt; &gt; over &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;ip network, not tell us we should lock down our voice over ip &gt; network. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Get it? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;The CISSP is heavy on theory, but not many places have time for &gt; &gt; theories &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;any more&#8230; they are running their budgets on empty until at &gt; least &gt; &gt; 2011. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Its time to roll up your sleeves and hit the datacenter. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;-Joe &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On &gt; Behalf &gt; &gt; Of &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;darth router &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:58 PM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: Cisco certification &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Anyone have it? 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		<title>Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just use broadcast storm control to diminish the loop impact processor wise and to define the broadcast threshold allowed as per interface, in that way it will give you more time to track down the source of the problem or at least time enough to disconnect all secondary layer 2 redundancy, loops are lethal and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just use broadcast storm control to diminish the loop impact processor wise and to define the broadcast threshold allowed as per interface, in that way it will give you more time to track down the source of the problem or at least time enough to disconnect all secondary layer 2 redundancy, loops are lethal and can bring down your network in a matter of seconds,<br />
Rodrigo</p>
<p>&gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On  &gt;Behalf Of ext Antonio Soares &gt;Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:43 PM &gt;To: &#8216;Kim teu&#8217;; &#8216;Cisco certification&#8217; &gt;Subject: RE: Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links &gt; &gt;A STP Loop can stop everything in your network. I saw an  &gt;entire data center going down in less than 1 second! When this  &gt;is happening, the best to do is to break every existent L2  &gt;redundant link quickly. In some situations, if you don&#8217;t have  &gt;physical access to the equipments, this is just not possible!  &gt; &gt;Then when the storm is over, you can try to trace the source  &gt;of the problem. But i can tell you it&#8217;s very difficult or even  &gt;not possible to find out what failed. &gt; &gt;Cisco has a good document about this: &gt; &gt;http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk621/technologies_tech_n &gt;ote09186a0080136673.shtml &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Regards, &gt; &gt;Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&amp;S) &gt;amsoares@netcabo.pt &gt; &gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On  &gt;Behalf Of Kim teu &gt;Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de Novembro de 2008 14:55 &gt;To: Cisco certification &gt;Subject: Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links &gt; &gt;Hello all, &gt; &gt;*Has anyone experienced a layer 2 loop event that caused OSPF  &gt;adjacency to be dropped for layer 3 links?  Any idea why?* &gt; &gt; &gt;** &gt; &gt;*What&#8217;s the best way to diagnose the cause of the layer 2  &gt;after the outage? &gt;The following is what I see in the log.**  VLAN 56 is looping&#8230;* &gt; &gt; &gt;*The switch is seeing packet sourced from itself::* &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472825: .Nov 19 15:38:56 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt;192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;*The standby state change to active because the switch lost it  &gt;connection to the active switch because of SPT loop prevention::* &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472826: .Nov 19 15:39:00 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE:  &gt;Vlan72 Group 72 &gt;state Standby -&gt; Active &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472827: .Nov 19 15:39:03 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan116 Group &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;116 &gt;state Standby -&gt; Active &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472828: .Nov 19 15:39:26 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt;192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472829: .Nov 19 15:39:38 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan152 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;152 &gt;state Active -&gt; Speak &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472830: .Nov 19 15:39:47 CST: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 10, Nbr &gt;192.168.200.5 on Vlan704 from EXSTART to DOWN, Neighbor Down:  &gt;Dead timer expired &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472831: .Nov 19 15:39:54 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan134 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;134 &gt;state Active -&gt; Speak &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472832: .Nov 19 15:39:56 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address &gt;192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800 &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472833: .Nov 19 15:39:59 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan152 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;152 &gt;state Standby -&gt; Active &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;472834: .Nov 19 15:40:14 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan134 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;134 &gt;state Standby -&gt; Active &gt; &gt; &gt;Kim &gt; &gt; &gt;Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt;_______________________________________________________________________ &gt;Subscription information may be found at:  &gt;http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt; &gt; &gt;Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt;_______________________________________________________________________ &gt;Subscription information may be found at:  &gt;http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[A STP Loop can stop everything in your network. I saw an entire data center going down in less than 1 second! When this is happening, the best to do is to break every existent L2 redundant link quickly. In some situations, if you don&#8217;t have physical access to the equipments, this is just not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A STP Loop can stop everything in your network. I saw an entire data center going down in less than 1 second! When this is happening, the best to do is to break every existent L2 redundant link quickly. In some situations, if you don&#8217;t have physical access to the equipments, this is just not possible!<br />
Then when the storm is over, you can try to trace the source of the problem. But i can tell you it&#8217;s very difficult or even not possible to find out what failed.<br />
Cisco has a good document about this:<br />
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk621/technologies_tech_note09186a0080136673.shtml</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&amp;S) amsoares@netcabo.pt<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Kim teu Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de Novembro de 2008 14:55 To: Cisco certification Subject: Layer 2 loop breaks OSPF adjacency over Layer 3 links<br />
Hello all,<br />
*Has anyone experienced a layer 2 loop event that caused OSPF adjacency to be dropped for layer 3 links?  Any idea why?*<br />
 **<br />
*What&#8217;s the best way to diagnose the cause of the layer 2 after the outage? The following is what I see in the log.**  VLAN 56 is looping&#8230;*<br />
 *The switch is seeing packet sourced from itself::*<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472825: .Nov 19 15:38:56 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address 192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800</p>
<p>*The standby state change to active because the switch lost it connection to the active switch because of SPT loop prevention::*<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472826: .Nov 19 15:39:00 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan72 Group 72 state Standby -&gt; Active<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472827: .Nov 19 15:39:03 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan116 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;116 state Standby -&gt; Active<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472828: .Nov 19 15:39:26 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address 192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472829: .Nov 19 15:39:38 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan152 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;152 state Active -&gt; Speak<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472830: .Nov 19 15:39:47 CST: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 10, Nbr 192.168.200.5 on Vlan704 from EXSTART to DOWN, Neighbor Down: Dead timer expired<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472831: .Nov 19 15:39:54 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan134 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;134 state Active -&gt; Speak<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472832: .Nov 19 15:39:56 CST: %STANDBY-3-DUPADDR: Duplicate address 192.168.97.1 on Vlan56, sourced by 0017.df1c.6800<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;472833: .Nov 19 15:39:59 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan152 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;152 state Standby -&gt; Active &gt;&gt;&gt;472834: .Nov 19 15:40:14 CST: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan134 Group  &gt;&gt;&gt;134 state Standby -&gt; Active<br />
 Kim<br />
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		<title>OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been awhile since I looked at this one but I recall there being an annual education requirement also so it&#8217;s not just a get it and forget it certification.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been awhile since I looked at this one but I recall there being an annual education requirement also so it&#8217;s not just a get it and forget it certification.<br />
CISSP is good for understanding the *soft* issues of security so for a consultant, manager, information security officer  it&#8217;s a good thing.  For an Engineer though, it won&#8217;t cover the hands-on details.<br />
Rik<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Long Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:10 AM To: Cisco certification Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?<br />
I have been considering the CISSP on an off for some time, I look at it as an option and as a large percentage of my work is security consultancy it is useful to have the weight of a CISSP to sit along with a CCIE. It also has the advantage of being a cert which is not tied to a vendor take a look at &#8220;http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/111708-cisco-sec.html&#8221; .<br />
As to the ability to cheat, yes the CISSP is a written (I haven&#8217;t sat it yet) but from what I have heard there is quite a bit of interpretation required for the exam questions. It&#8217;s not like pass4suring your CCNA.<br />
And once you have passed your exam you have to be endorsed: &#8220;Once a candidate has been notified they have successfully passed the CISSP examination, he or she will be required to have his or her application endorsed before the credential can be awarded.<br />
The endorser attests that the candidate&#8217;s assertions regarding professional experience are true to the best of their knowledge, and that the candidate is in good standing within the information security industry.&#8221; http://www.isc2.org/endorsement.aspx<br />
Now I not saying the endorsement isn&#8217;t fool proof, but, how many R&amp;S jockeys have won their spurs in the real world and how many are sat tapping away on a dynamips lab?<br />
You pays you money and takes your choice.<br />
 &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Pavel Bykov Sent: 18 November 2008 23:01 To: Darby Weaver Cc: darth router; Duncan Maccubbin; Cisco certification Subject: Re: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?<br />
One of the reasons CCIE has held up in high ranks over all those years is the thorough practical part, which inherently filters out paper-boys, or certifications where people can cheat using TK, Pass4Sure, etc. CISSP does not have that, and as far as I know, has only theoretical part to it. Therefore it could have value HR-wise now, but weight of the cert it is directly offseted by it&#8217;s demand and amount of people cheating their way to it.</p>
<p>On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Darby Weaver wrote:<br />
&gt; All, &gt; &gt; I&#8217;ve seen a lot of demand for the CISSP. &gt; &gt; It&#8217;s not that hard from a technical perspective but it is broad and does &gt; require a little time to study for it. &gt; &gt; It has its place and some people with the CISSP are commanding greater &gt; salaries than a CCIE. &gt; &gt; But recall the CISSP is not assumed to have any specific knowledge of &gt; either &gt; a PIX/ASA nor Cisco. &gt; &gt; It&#8217;s a generalist certification very similar to the SANS GSEC. &gt; &gt; If you want to work in a Security capacity it&#8217;s kind of assumed to be &gt; there. &gt; &gt; So not a bad $500.00 or so investment for the exam or maybe $4500-5000.00 &gt; for a class. &gt; &gt; Cheaper than a CCIE for sure. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:28 PM, darth router  &gt;wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; Good conversation. I&#8217;ve seen it as a DoD contract requirement before. I&#8217;d &gt; &gt; probably look at it as a resume booster, but I do have to admit, there &gt; was &gt; &gt; good material with what I did read over, just boring, and not action &gt; packed &gt; &gt; like working on cisco gear! &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Duncan Maccubbin  &gt; duncan.maccubbin@earthlink.net&gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  How much did your CCIE teach you about Physical data center security? &gt; &gt; &gt; Disaster recovery? Law? While it didn&#8217;t go into deep detail I still &gt; &gt; learned &gt; &gt; &gt; quit a bit. The CISSP is what it is which is not a vendor specific &gt; hands &gt; &gt; on &gt; &gt; &gt; exam. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8220;But to each is own&#8230; I worked at a company where like 5 people got &gt; the &gt; &gt; &gt; CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix&#8230; so &gt; &gt; what &gt; &gt; &gt; does that tell you???&#8221; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  It tells me you have no clue what the CISSP exam is about. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: Joseph Brunner  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Nov 17, 2008 10:41 AM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: &#8220;&#8216;Diment, Andrew&#8217;&#8221; , &#8216;darth router&#8217;  &gt; &gt; darklordrouter@gmail.com&gt;, &#8216;Cisco certification&#8217;  ccielab@groupstudy.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Right, I agree &#8220;knowledge is never useless&#8221; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;There is better security knowledge for today&#8217;s re-aligned world in the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;CCNA-SEC &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I wouldn&#8217;t even say the CISSP is an inch deep&#8230; it&#8217;s about a &gt; millimeter &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;deep, that&#8217;s why I think its worthless. The CCIE written&#8217;s are an inch &gt; &gt; &gt; deep. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;But to each is own&#8230; I worked at a company where like 5 people got &gt; the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix&#8230; &gt; so &gt; &gt; &gt; what &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;does that tell you??? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;-Joe &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf &gt; Of &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Diment, Andrew &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:26 AM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: Joseph Brunner; darth router; Cisco certification &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I don&#8217;t agree with your assessment that the CISSP is useless. Does it &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;teach you to configure a firewall&#8230;no, but neither does a college &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;degree.  Would you consider that useless too?  Knowledge is never &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;useless. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;You just need to take it for what it is, a 50,000 foot view of all &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;aspects of security.  A mile wide and an inch deep.  By itself it &gt; might &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;not mean much, but it does show you went through the material and &gt; passed &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;the test.  Anything, and I mean anything, that will move your resume &gt; to &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;the &#8220;interview&#8221; pile is very useful. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I very recently applied for a security job within my own company. I &gt; got &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;a call from HR and the guys exact words were &#8220;you have a CCIE and a &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;CISSP, I&#8217;m going to immediately forward your resume to the hiring &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;manager&#8221;.  I had an interview 24 hours later. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Andy &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf &gt; Of &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Joseph Brunner &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:39 AM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: &#8216;darth router&#8217;; &#8216;Cisco certification&#8217; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;OT is right.. search the archives&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;My thoughts - useless, now more than ever&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Its bad in IT right now unless you can configure a firewall, not tell &gt; us &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;we should have one. Unless you can configure a lockdown of a voice &gt; over &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;ip network, not tell us we should lock down our voice over ip network. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Get it? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;The CISSP is heavy on theory, but not many places have time for &gt; theories &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;any more&#8230; they are running their budgets on empty until at least &gt; 2011. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Its time to roll up your sleeves and hit the datacenter. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;-Joe &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf &gt; Of &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;darth router &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:58 PM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: Cisco certification &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Anyone have it? 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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, i&#8217;ve seen this problem before. I made a little search with Bug Tookit and found this:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CSCse78533 Bug Details
Debug mpls packet shows incorrect label stack
Symptom: Debug mpls packets shows bogus label stack.
Conditions: When debug mpls packets is turned on.
Workaround: Do not run debug mpls packets.
Related Bug Information
Printing incorrect label information in mpls debug
Symptom: When [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, i&#8217;ve seen this problem before. I made a little search with Bug Tookit and found this:<br />
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CSCse78533 Bug Details<br />
Debug mpls packet shows incorrect label stack<br />
Symptom: Debug mpls packets shows bogus label stack.<br />
Conditions: When debug mpls packets is turned on.<br />
Workaround: Do not run debug mpls packets.<br />
Related Bug Information<br />
Printing incorrect label information in mpls debug<br />
Symptom: When MPLS Traffic is sent over a TE Tunnel, the debug output produced using the command debug mpls packet produces incorrect information about the label stack.<br />
Workaround: There is no workaround.<br />
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br />
I saw this problem in scenarios without MPLS TE.<br />
 Regards,<br />
Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&amp;S) amsoares@netcabo.pt<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Pavel Bykov Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de Novembro de 2008 20:04 To: Rich Collins Cc: Con Spathas; ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: Re: MPLS EXP remarking<br />
Since CEF is the mechanism that is working with tags, I expect FIB/LFIB to do the tag bidding. When you debug, then it has to be process switched, so that might be responsible.<br />
What I was thinking of though, is the exact output of debug command. Is it really EXP or CoS? Because since you are using VLANs, it could just refer to cos markings. Are you setting CoS as well? Can you try setting CoS?<br />
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Rich Collins  wrote:<br />
&gt; Hello, &gt; &gt; I just tried a very similar scenario to yours (Uniform mode) with dynamips. &gt; &gt; If I turned on &#8220;debug mpls packet&#8221;on P1 (where the match and rewrite  &gt; of the EXP occurs) then the policy maps/service policies wouldn&#8217;t  &gt; work.  It confused me because I had seen some increment in the  &gt; counters but that was from the time before I had activated the debug.   &gt; So it worked properly after turning off this debug and observing  &gt; further along in the P core such as on your R4 (enabling debug mpls  &gt; packet here). &gt; &gt; Is there some caveat when using &#8220;debug mpls packet&#8221;? &gt; &gt; -Rich &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Con Spathas  &gt;  &gt;wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; Gday, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I think I&#8217;m missing something quite fundamental here but I can&#8217;t  &gt; &gt; seem to find the reason why&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I have the following setup: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; R1 (CE) - R2 (PE) - R3 (P) - R4 (P) - R5 (PE) - R6 (CE) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; R2 is matching ICMP inbound from R1 and marking it MPLS EXP 4 &gt; &gt; R3 is matching MPLS EXP 4 from R2 and remarking it to MPLS EXP1 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I see that is happening when I debug on R4 (the COS=4 on the XMIT is  &gt; &gt; the VPN &gt; &gt; label) which is what I expect as R5 is currently sending implicit  &gt; &gt; null to R4. &gt; &gt; If I configure R5 to advertise explicit null in LDP, the debug  &gt; &gt; output changes correctly and the xmit CoS = 1. Anyhow that&#8217;s not my  &gt; &gt; issue - just background info. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; R4 &gt; &gt; *Mar  1 02:40:51.859: MPLS: Et0/0.34: recvd: CoS=1, TTL=253, &gt; Label(s)=19/21 &gt; &gt; *Mar  1 02:40:51.863: MPLS: Et0/0.45: xmit: CoS=4, TTL=252,  &gt; &gt; Label(s)=21 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The bit that is eluding my understanding is the output on R3. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; R3 &gt; &gt; *Mar  1 00:10:59.075: MPLS: Et0/0.23: recvd: CoS=4, TTL=254, &gt; Label(s)=17/21 &gt; &gt; *Mar  1 00:10:59.079: MPLS: Et0/0.34: xmit: CoS=4, TTL=253, &gt; Label(s)=19/21 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I can&#8217;t work out why the xmit is showing the CoS=4 - even though R4  &gt; &gt; does receive it as CoS=1 ? I expected on R3 to see CoS=1 on the XMIT. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This is the policy map in have inbound on R3&#8217;s connection to R2. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; class-map match-all EXP4 &gt; &gt;  match mpls experimental topmost 4 &gt; &gt; ! &gt; &gt; policy-map IN &gt; &gt;  class EXP4 &gt; &gt;  set mpls experimental topmost 1 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The policy-map output is incrementing counters correctly. So whilst  &gt; &gt; the re-marking is working - I don&#8217;t quite understand why the debug  &gt; &gt; on R3 &gt; isn&#8217;t &gt; &gt; consistent with what I subsequently see on R4. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Any insight would be great. Thanks. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Con. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ____________________________________________________________________ &gt; &gt; ___ Subscription information may be found at: &gt; &gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; ______________________________________________________________________ &gt; _ Subscription information may be found at: &gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br />
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		<title>How to become a Cisco Learning Partner[CLP]</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How to become a Learning Partner (that&#8217;s something your business does) or how to become a CCSI (trainer - that&#8217;s something an individual does)?
They are two entirely different things.
HTH,
 Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER Senior CCIE Instructor
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Knowledge is power.  Power corrupts.  Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil&#8230;&#8230;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to become a Learning Partner (that&#8217;s something your business does) or how to become a CCSI (trainer - that&#8217;s something an individual does)?<br />
They are two entirely different things.<br />
HTH,<br />
 Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER Senior CCIE Instructor<br />
smorris@internetworkexpert.com</p>
<p>Knowledge is power.  Power corrupts.  Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil&#8230;&#8230;<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of oluwaseyi ojo Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:23 PM To: Cisco certification Subject: How to become a Cisco Learning Partner[CLP]<br />
Hello All,<br />
Can someone please provide me with a detailed and straight forward steps on the above subject. I googled this but the response I got are not what I really want. I need someone who has done this before to please give me an expert view on this. Things like person in-charge of CLP, contact details,requirements, pre-requisites,etc.<br />
I deeply appreciate,thanks alot.<br />
Cheers.<br />
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		<title>Ip Conflict Resolver</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uhh&#8230;DHCP?  Seriously, why would everything be static?  I haven&#8217;t seen that in years&#8230;
Setup DHCP, setup DNS (and WINS if applicable) and consider this done. You&#8217;ll typically always have *some* static addresses so you&#8217;ll want to document those somehow.  If users are changing their own addresses to whatever the heck they want to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhh&#8230;DHCP?  Seriously, why would everything be static?  I haven&#8217;t seen that in years&#8230;<br />
Setup DHCP, setup DNS (and WINS if applicable) and consider this done. You&#8217;ll typically always have *some* static addresses so you&#8217;ll want to document those somehow.  If users are changing their own addresses to whatever the heck they want to then you also will likely need to create a new policy to disallow such behavior.  Sounds like you&#8217;ll get cooperation from the top with this.  <img src='http://www.goccie.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Rik<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Mark Stephanus Chandra Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:23 AM To: ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: Ip Conflict Resolver<br />
Guys,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kinda out of topic from ccie lab,</p>
<p>but I just wondering after googling several times, I still cannot find the solution.</p>
<p>So the problem is , In My company, we use static ip to connect to LAN. But the problem is, a lot of ip conflict in the network and unfortunately, sometimes there are users using my President Director IP Address. </p>
<p>So, that make world war 3 in my office <img src='http://www.goccie.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve got called to resolve this problem. Any suggestion ?</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Mark Stephanus Chandra IT Consultant<br />
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